Nicolas Cage says Christopher Nolan is among the filmmakers who stopped calling after Cage turned down one of their projects, which is one of the more polite ways Hollywood can make a grudge look like scheduling.

In a new interview with The New York Times, the National Treasure and Longlegs actor reflected on saying no to major directors earlier in his career, and how those decisions have sometimes stayed in the room long after the meeting ended.

Why Cage says some directors do not call back

The subject came up after Cage mentioned that he once turned down a “good movie” from David O. Russell, the director of American Hustle. Cage described that offer as coming “a million years ago,” but said Russell has been unusually willing to circle back.